SonicX580
Smash Lord
True but if you play the stage long enough you can memorize the patterns on when it switches and you can see it coming.
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*UPDATED* Sonic Stage/Counterpick Discussion *Discuss PS1 + New BF Rewrite*
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Kinzer
Mammy
X5, Frigate Orpheon switches whenever it feels like it AFAIK, it has no set pattern.
Frigate Orpheon will go neutral at worst, it really screws your opponent much more than it would for Sonic, simply put. As long as you make yourself comfortable on Frigate, you can't go wrong. Granted, there are better specific maps to take certain opponents, but if you're not sure this place out to be just as reliable as any other CP stage you're uncertain of. Just make sure you don't get infinited on the wall when the platform in leveled low that is a humiliating thing, even if it's only for a couple of seconds to fall into.
I would probably rate this map 3.5 just because of Sonic's versatility.
BONUS: Japes - It sucks, ban it if you canl.
Frigate Orpheon will go neutral at worst, it really screws your opponent much more than it would for Sonic, simply put. As long as you make yourself comfortable on Frigate, you can't go wrong. Granted, there are better specific maps to take certain opponents, but if you're not sure this place out to be just as reliable as any other CP stage you're uncertain of. Just make sure you don't get infinited on the wall when the platform in leveled low that is a humiliating thing, even if it's only for a couple of seconds to fall into.
I would probably rate this map 3.5 just because of Sonic's versatility.
BONUS: Japes - It sucks, ban it if you canl.
SonicX580
Smash Lord
I know but I'am talking about seeing at least 3 seconds or so before it happens.X5, Frigate Orpheon switches whenever it feels like it AFAIK, it has no set pattern.
Frigate Orpheon will go neutral at worst, it really screws your opponent much more than it would for Sonic, simply put. As long as you make yourself comfortable on Frigate, you can't go wrong. Granted, there are better specific maps to take certain opponents, but if you're not sure this place out to be just as reliable as any other CP stage you're uncertain of. Just make sure you don't get infinited on the wall when the platform in leveled low that is a humiliating thing, even if it's only for a couple of seconds to fall into.
I would probably rate this map 3.5 just because of Sonic's versatility.
BONUS: Japes - It sucks, ban it if you canl.
Chis
Finally a legend
The stage is far to small for my liking.
Also there's an instant kill on that stage. It happened to SS8766. <--(The right number right?)
Also there's an instant kill on that stage. It happened to SS8766. <--(The right number right?)
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I find Frigate quite bearable.
Plenty of room to maneuver.
Only bad thing is that it's quite hard to gimp there, especially when the random platforms come out randomly from the sides of the stage and provide safety for characters with bad recoveries.
Plenty of room to maneuver.
Only bad thing is that it's quite hard to gimp there, especially when the random platforms come out randomly from the sides of the stage and provide safety for characters with bad recoveries.
Kinzer
Mammy
X5, there is something wrong with the person if they can't tell the stage is going to switch when it goes "*BWUAH BWUAH BWUAH BWUAH BWUAH!* and it flashes yellow when you put it like that.
BTW don't quote my whole post, erase the stuff that pertains only to you, it looks much more professional.
BTW don't quote my whole post, erase the stuff that pertains only to you, it looks much more professional.
SonicX580
Smash Lord
I know Kinzer but I mean like after it does that I mean that you can see where the platforms are going to flip also I'am netural about the stage.
Jim Morrison
Smash Authority
You already know where the platform is going to flip to, if you remember what the stage looks like.
SonicX580
Smash Lord
Jim Morrison
Smash Authority
What do you mean unpredictable? The stage always flips to the other one.
SonicX580
Smash Lord
I mean by the presiction on where are you going to land? will I make it safe? and probably I hope my opponent doesn't hit me while I'am trying to land safe.
thecatinthehat
Smash Master
Uhh.. jump in the air, towards the middle of the screen?I mean by the presiction on where are you going to land? will I make it safe? and probably I hope my opponent doesn't hit me while I'am trying to land safe.
This isn't that hard dude.
SonicX580
Smash Lord
Unless you're opponent trys to mess you up.Uhh.. jump in the air, towards the middle of the screen?
This isn't that hard dude.
Jim Morrison
Smash Authority
Yea, I'm kinda done trying to argue him, it just seems like there's no sense behind this at all.
SonicX580
Smash Lord
thecatinthehat
Smash Master
Jim Morrison
Smash Authority
LOLOLOLOL I have no reply to this... TBH, I think this board should just put the name of the person who your post is directed to as title...
thecatinthehat
Smash Master
OK...
SonicX580.
Lets clear things up.
Right now, in this thread,
me(thecatinthehat) and (Gf2tw) were arguing with you(SonicX580)
Do you understand this concept?
SonicX580.
Lets clear things up.
Right now, in this thread,
me(thecatinthehat) and (Gf2tw) were arguing with you(SonicX580)
Do you understand this concept?
Jim Morrison
Smash Authority
That also applies to "Oh **** son!"
SonicX580
Smash Lord
I know that CiTH:facepalm
He was talking about you.
Kinda obvious CiTH.OK...
SonicX580.
Lets clear things up.
Right now, in this thread,
me(thecatinthehat) and (Gf2tw) were arguing with you(SonicX580)
Do you understand this concept?
thecatinthehat
Smash Master
I know that CiTH....
....Kinda obvious CiTH.
wut?
you just showed otherwise.
fail
SonicX580
Smash Lord
CiTH let's just move on before we get this thread closed and us infracted.wut?
you just showed otherwise.
fail
Back On Topic: I agree with Boxob on the fair amount of space.
Kinzer
Mammy
It won't get closed, but you're right on the infractions.
Chis
Finally a legend
I agree with SonicX580.
thecatinthehat
Smash Master
Kinzer
Mammy
I think he means just the getting on-topic part.
But seriously now, we just need to wait for Camal to update this thread, since we've all basically said our 2-cents for Frigate.
But seriously now, we just need to wait for Camal to update this thread, since we've all basically said our 2-cents for Frigate.
Browny
Smash Hater
Frigate is my new CP for tourneys now.
mostly because everyone else hates playing on it so much lol. Right edge is on first stage soooo good for messing up so many characters recoveries.
mostly because everyone else hates playing on it so much lol. Right edge is on first stage soooo good for messing up so many characters recoveries.
I usually stick with Yoshi's Island when I fight with Sonic. I'll sometimes mix it up with Corneria, though I'll survive well on most neutral and counterpick stages. FD can be a pain sometimes, but if I'm lucky enough to use the "extra jump" trick I'm fine for the most part.
thecatinthehat
Smash Master
FD is my best stage. Doesn't interfere with my spring game.
BF ***** me.
I <3 Smashville
BF ***** me.
I <3 Smashville
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I hate Yoshi's Island so much. I play really badly on there.
I ban it if I'm not against someone who ***** on Battlefield, everytime.
I ban it if I'm not against someone who ***** on Battlefield, everytime.
SonicX580
Smash Lord
Green Hill Zone is my best stage my Sonic ***** there.
Kinzer
Mammy
Guys, this is discussing Frigate, not which stages you do best/worst on...
SonicX580
Smash Lord
Kinzer
Mammy
That's why I'm reminding everybody else X5...
*Cough* Where are you Camal? Take my advice and move this on to Japes so I can argue with whoever is delirious enough to think it has anything good going for Sonic to death.
*Cough* Where are you Camal? Take my advice and move this on to Japes so I can argue with whoever is delirious enough to think it has anything good going for Sonic to death.
JayBee
Smash Champion
this is my opinion:
Frigate Orpheon is a decent stage for sonic imo. The only issue most people hate about it would be what? when the stage flips. why? because if they were doing something good the stage transition screws it up sometimes. exactly. We got a platform so we can use that against spammers of lazers. Sonic seems good enough to me to survive in that envrionment, and maybe can take advantage of the stage to gimp below. I'm not saying definate advantage, but if youpractice there, you can counter pick and throw your opponent off, maybe even take advantage during the transitions.
i should work on playing in more stages though.
Frigate Orpheon is a decent stage for sonic imo. The only issue most people hate about it would be what? when the stage flips. why? because if they were doing something good the stage transition screws it up sometimes. exactly. We got a platform so we can use that against spammers of lazers. Sonic seems good enough to me to survive in that envrionment, and maybe can take advantage of the stage to gimp below. I'm not saying definate advantage, but if youpractice there, you can counter pick and throw your opponent off, maybe even take advantage during the transitions.
i should work on playing in more stages though.
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Hey.
Stop failing in my thread.
It seems like Frigate is just about covered, but I guess I'll give it untill tommorow or something before I move on.
I have a lot of reading to do in the SBR >_>
Stop failing in my thread.
It seems like Frigate is just about covered, but I guess I'll give it untill tommorow or something before I move on.
I have a lot of reading to do in the SBR >_>
JayBee
Smash Champion
hehe, I came soooo mad late, oh well...
Jim Morrison
Smash Authority
I can't let this die, Sonic boards.
Frigate Orpheon is cool.
Frigate Orpheon is cool.
Jim Morrison
Smash Authority
So, which one should we do next. I'd say we go for Jungle Japes. It's a cool level :D It'd could really work in your favour.
Jungle Japes also has cool background.
JUNGLE JAPES
Discuss
Advantages:
-Opponents with poor horizontal recovery will hate this level.
-Can ASC to the mid platform from the 2 side platforms by just SDR'ing off.
-Makes spamming a bit harder (except for Lasers)
Disadvantages:
-High cealing makes it hard to kill with U-throw/U-air.
-Sonic has decent horizontal recovery, but still won't always make it back.
-Not a lot of space to run around.
Jungle Japes also has cool background.
JUNGLE JAPES
Discuss
Advantages:
-Opponents with poor horizontal recovery will hate this level.
-Can ASC to the mid platform from the 2 side platforms by just SDR'ing off.
-Makes spamming a bit harder (except for Lasers)
Disadvantages:
-High cealing makes it hard to kill with U-throw/U-air.
-Sonic has decent horizontal recovery, but still won't always make it back.
-Not a lot of space to run around.