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Oregon Smash Community [OSC] - Oregon's official Smash Community est. 2005
- Thread starter T0MMY
- Start date
Digital Watches
Smash Ace
Josh, I think he's indicating that he gathers that you're self-centered from your annoying-as-**** tendency to assume that every post is specifically directed towards you.
Also, if you are attempting to change this opinion he has of you, I'm surprised that you'd make statements like
Also, I find it hilarious that you tell everyone to calm down when you're pretty obviously becoming quite riled up, even over fairly innocuous statements.
Also, if you are attempting to change this opinion he has of you, I'm surprised that you'd make statements like
I mean, you're basically saying "clearly I couldn't have made a mistake, because I'm so intelligent! Tudios must have been unclear."
Also, I find it hilarious that you tell everyone to calm down when you're pretty obviously becoming quite riled up, even over fairly innocuous statements.
Digital Watches
Smash Ace
Lulz? I really hope you're not being ironic, because that would be even more hilarious. I'm sorry for clarifying?
Wikipedia
Smash Lord
Doo dun doo dun
Can't touch this!
Dun doo dun doo
Can't touch this!
Can't touch this!
Dun doo dun doo
Can't touch this!
Digital Watches
Smash Ace
Heheh. Clearly me saying that so much was just so cool, you HAD to do it.
Imitation is the highest form of flattery.
Don't worry, I understand.
EDIT: Go with megaman. He looks more angry.
Trust me on this one. :bigthumbu
Imitation is the highest form of flattery.
Don't worry, I understand.
EDIT: Go with megaman. He looks more angry.
Trust me on this one. :bigthumbu
Riot6777
Smash Ace
Yes I agree you should be a panelist and so should I.
B1NX.
Cmin.
Rage
All 5 of us should be panelists
lol
Anyway I have read the last 5 pages and it is a good topic
I had to win KUMORICON this year I couldn't let you have it for the 4th year in a row Dman.
Digital Watches
Smash Ace
That one gets me every time.
still havent figured out who/what a VG is, but that car picture made me laugh out loud real loud, too loud parents woke up at like 3 am
anyways, hey riot, where was this tourney or whatever you guys went to, i have never heard of it
anyways, hey riot, where was this tourney or whatever you guys went to, i have never heard of it
FoosJr
Smash Ace
Wow ok stop arguing on the boards it's ******** secondly on the PR list it seems like we are getting a rediculously long list. I'm gonna have to say it should stay bart binx minh and timmy. We don't need any more than that, and they are all chill and won't try to bone anyone in the power rankings.
It doesn't matter how much you people argue about what, the only way a PR list will come easily is if we figure out who the panelists, and how the players are ranked.
As it stands, t1mmy is the only real panelist as he started what is currently the PR list. I like the idea of each region having a panelist. I would also support the idea of a secondary panelist in case the primary is unable to do any of his jobs.
The PR matches worked very well, the only problem anyone came up with was Aftermath wouldn't play his matches. Although, not participating or sandbagging would reflect on the PR list anyway, so it seems more accurate in a way. Even though he should have been ranked higher, continual PR matches would eventually put him about right on the list as people would propose PR ranking matches against him.
The other view is just to have panelists that know the metagame rank the players as they see fit. This lends itself to bias rather than raw data. Which is why I'm against it. They will base their vote on personality, or what kind of music they like. Even if they do not want to do this, it is still subconscious or questionable. Which is why I am more inclined to accept PR matches.
As for the regions, it really shouldn't be by-the-city because the major events will be in the larger cities. In reality, we only need North, Central & South. Seeing as there are no events in the south, only North & South would really be needed.
Portland (northern) - Minh; Binx(?)/Venus Gospel(?)/Rage(?)
Eugene (central) - t1mmy; t0mmy(?)
Grant's Pass (southern, apostrophe included) - Dirt; Milk(?)
Rage does better in tournaments, but Venus Gospel has probably gotten better as far as skill goes. Either way, it doesn't matter who is better as far as panelists go. What matters is is they know the metagame, attend tournaments in their area consistently, and are active here on the boards. Of course, if they do these things chances are they are really good at playing as well.
As it stands, t1mmy is the only real panelist as he started what is currently the PR list. I like the idea of each region having a panelist. I would also support the idea of a secondary panelist in case the primary is unable to do any of his jobs.
The PR matches worked very well, the only problem anyone came up with was Aftermath wouldn't play his matches. Although, not participating or sandbagging would reflect on the PR list anyway, so it seems more accurate in a way. Even though he should have been ranked higher, continual PR matches would eventually put him about right on the list as people would propose PR ranking matches against him.
The other view is just to have panelists that know the metagame rank the players as they see fit. This lends itself to bias rather than raw data. Which is why I'm against it. They will base their vote on personality, or what kind of music they like. Even if they do not want to do this, it is still subconscious or questionable. Which is why I am more inclined to accept PR matches.
As for the regions, it really shouldn't be by-the-city because the major events will be in the larger cities. In reality, we only need North, Central & South. Seeing as there are no events in the south, only North & South would really be needed.
Portland (northern) - Minh; Binx(?)/Venus Gospel(?)/Rage(?)
Eugene (central) - t1mmy; t0mmy(?)
Grant's Pass (southern, apostrophe included) - Dirt; Milk(?)
Rage does better in tournaments, but Venus Gospel has probably gotten better as far as skill goes. Either way, it doesn't matter who is better as far as panelists go. What matters is is they know the metagame, attend tournaments in their area consistently, and are active here on the boards. Of course, if they do these things chances are they are really good at playing as well.
If the player listing on the first page is supposed to be a PR list, then it's seriously fuxed XD
But Tommy, your point on the personal bias through "ranking players as the panelists see fit" option is spot on. I'm glad you said it, because I didn't want to bring up any actual arguments(because we know how that would turn out with the people who jump at every chance they get to flame me). If, by an unfortunate turn of events, Oregon goes through with a PR list, I agree - PR matches would be the better option.
Second part goes to PM with you so other parties don't get all flustered.
But Tommy, your point on the personal bias through "ranking players as the panelists see fit" option is spot on. I'm glad you said it, because I didn't want to bring up any actual arguments(because we know how that would turn out with the people who jump at every chance they get to flame me). If, by an unfortunate turn of events, Oregon goes through with a PR list, I agree - PR matches would be the better option.
Second part goes to PM with you so other parties don't get all flustered.
The reason there are multiple panelists in a system without PR matches is to prevent biases. That's the thing. You want these PR matches to happen for some really weird reason when it's been proven multiple times in many other regions that the panel with voting and opinions of players' improvement and skill is what works.
Also, nobody is going to base their vote on the music that somebody likes. I don't see that sort of thing happening at all, whether it be music or that they just plain don't like a person, with the current ideas of panelists. In fact, from past experiences with YOU, T0mmy, it seems as though YOU'D be the one to vote with bias, and seeing as how you're the one worried about that happening, it's obviously on your mind.
Also, nobody is going to base their vote on the music that somebody likes. I don't see that sort of thing happening at all, whether it be music or that they just plain don't like a person, with the current ideas of panelists. In fact, from past experiences with YOU, T0mmy, it seems as though YOU'D be the one to vote with bias, and seeing as how you're the one worried about that happening, it's obviously on your mind.
Jem.
Smash Master
Bart commin wit it!
Hey Bart you going to Super Champ Combo? Jamo, Shane, and I are.
Hey Bart you going to Super Champ Combo? Jamo, Shane, and I are.
Jem.
Smash Master
Oh, alright, dang =/.
Rage.
Smash Ace
First day of school sucked.
I like how a bunch of people were debating whether who is better, Me or VG.
It doesn't really matter towards being a panelist. The knowlege of the game and being able to see who is better than who is what a panelist needs to be. if the PR works out then I would expect the tournments to probley the biggest factor in who got what spot.
And I would have to say that MCS Would be number 1.
For every torney that MCS has gone to he either won or did the best out of the Oregon smashers.
does anyone disagree?
I like how a bunch of people were debating whether who is better, Me or VG.
It doesn't really matter towards being a panelist. The knowlege of the game and being able to see who is better than who is what a panelist needs to be. if the PR works out then I would expect the tournments to probley the biggest factor in who got what spot.
And I would have to say that MCS Would be number 1.
For every torney that MCS has gone to he either won or did the best out of the Oregon smashers.
does anyone disagree?
Binx
Smash Master
Im glad bart said it, I was going to say it also, the reason you have multiple panalists is so that people have to agree at least somewhat, no matter what it will be relatively fair, besides people would call any of us on BS anyways so who cares. I don't like PR battles, its based on points not tournament success. If you get 1st at every tournament you go to you should be number 1 regardless of how often you play. We should just have an agreed upon period of inactivity before you are removed from the PR or demoted, simple enough.
Just get together an aim group of panelists to vote for the head panelist and discuss the top players in the state, simple stuff really.
Peach Masta
Smash Lord
Don't worry what Josh says Bart take 101
Peach Masta
Smash Lord
of course I attend UO pretty often you just don't see me because I don't like to have my online life get in the way of my real life...or something like that 
Peach Masta
Smash Lord
yes...but...ummm *throws smoke and runs to OSU* Go whatever mascot they are if they are the beavers then yay but if they are the ducks *throws more smoke then comes back to the beaver college*
Digital Watches
Smash Ace
I'm confused. Aren't U of O and OSU two different colleges?
VenusGospel
Smash Apprentice
Don't put me as a panelist, I'd do terrible, usually the only reason I post on the forums is cus i'm mentioned, and I'm not active here otherwise, considering there's not much going on usually... Anywho, I'll go to the tournaments I feel like, usually I'd just rather chill at home and practice, that's the most fun i get out of it...
So yeah, i'm not up to it, Not like i'm busy or anything, I just don't feel too inclined to be one
So yeah, i'm not up to it, Not like i'm busy or anything, I just don't feel too inclined to be one
Jem.
Smash Master
University of Oregon, Oregon State University. Owned, son!
FoosJr
Smash Ace
Wow burn, UO > OSU just like Halo 1 > Halo 2 and OC George > all.
Wikipedia
Smash Lord
I think Salem should have a rep in the PR lololol.