Social The Social Thread 3 - Switch 2 launches June

[KingofPhantoms]

NO, BUT ARE WE JUST GONNA WAIT AROUND UNTIL IT DOES?

I say...WE TIP SOMETHING OVER!

 

[cashregister9]

I will say for Kremling hopers

this appears on the official site

Obviously, nothing is confirmed, but both of these structures are kinda crocodile shaped.

 

[Knight Dude]

Have the griftsrs called the Wheelchair Basketball game woke garbage yet btw

Jury's still out on that. They have yet to see a person darker than a Wheat-Thin. The instead WOKELY hide the skin colors.

Btw what is up with that "Come look at how cool the Switch 2 is" tech demo? Nintendo isn't getting enough **** for making that cost money tbh, especially when compared to Astro's Playroom, an actual game

It looks like ass so no one even acknowledges it. But I agree that it's dumb.

Lucky

ok but like the old design could emote. They didn’t need to change it to do expressive animations. And hearing about how “the new design is so expressive” just feels like… idk what it feels like but it feels wrong. I’m sorry but I just don’t like it and I feel like way too many people have been won over by it based on a flimsy argument and little flourishes that you could have done with the old design anyway.

He didn’t need to put on weight. He didn’t need to get a bunch of really shaggy fur. He didn’t need an eyebrow that perfectly rounds around his eyes.

He didn’t need to look like a Mario character. His game didn’t need to play like a Mario game. The environments didn’t need to look like Mario environments. The villains didn’t need to look like Mario villains.

Donkey Kong doesn’t need to be Mario. Miyamoto just wanted him to because all of a sudden he cares about “his baby” that he initially abandoned on the stoop in England. It’s too late. He doesn’t get to try to raise his “son” now and he should stop before he makes things even worse.

No kickboxing did not help me get out my emotions.

The only thing I'll agree on is that the Old design could've been fine, but I also don't hate the new one. Either works for me. Hell, Jungle Beat, as weird of a title as it is, was worked on by the Mario Galaxy team before Galaxy came out, so it's not as if internal Nintendo hasn't gone back to DK previously. Same with internal Nintendo doing Metroid Zero Mission and Fusion while Prime 1 and Prime 2 were done by Retro. So saying "The Japanese, can't possibly understand the ape like Europeans do" is a wild statement. 2 of those games were by American lead teams as it was anyway. And I'd argue that Jungle Beat had his coolest looking design, both compared to new DK and Rare DK. Again, probably the reason why I don't hate New DK is that he's more or less DK 94 in 3D.

I get new designs can be off putting. Overcomplicated MCU suits are like the post children for this. And I while I don't hate the games, I DO NOT LIKE the Zero series designs for most of the Mega Man characters in it. So again, I have some sympathy there.

I would also say that he isn't just doing Mario ****. He's still rolling, there's still mine carts, still barrel cannons, still throwing barrels. All DK ****. The new stuff isn't even cribbing Mario, it's cribbing off of Hulk. We haven't seen whether or not he does things like Capturing or not to just say it's DK Odyssey.

I don't think the new Monkey/Apes look like Mario characters. They feel closer to Kirby or Monkey Ball(you'd think THEY would crossover, btw). But obviously, that's a personal perspective thing. And again, Jungle Beat had, IMO some cool Kong designs, which I wish one or two of them stuck around. We'll have to see if we're lucky enough to have Diddy and Dixie in the game too. I hope so, they showed up in the movie, from what I heard.

 

[Lamperouge]

Idk, the new DK can easily look badass as proven by the Bananza box art.

 

[TheMightyP]

I say...WE TIP SOMETHING OVER!

...NOW WHAT?

GET THE MIYAMOTO

 

[Noipoi]

Idk, the new DK can easily look badass as proven by the Bananza box art.

Jesus **** that goes hard

 

[Guynamednelson]

Also are we gonna talk about the fact that Sakurai is back for another Kirby game???? That's monumental

If anything, the thing we're really not talking about is that the Switch 2 Direct indirectly revealed both of these characters are going to be in the same skateboarding game.

 

[TheMightyP]

Ooh ooh, can I post the Bananza Boxart next? Mom said it's my turn

 

[Pink Yoshi]

Thinking about that one Smashboardian who wanted the Puffles from Club Penguin to be playable in Smash.

Honestly? I'd kinda be here for that. Like, grab a bunch of them so their unique toys and personalities could be shown to their fullest. Imagine Ike getting ran over by an orange puffle on a wheelbarrow or a flaming black puffle pile-driving Luigi. And that's without all the crazy skin potential like with all the Puffle Creatures and stuff like that.

Just saying, if Sakurai ever wanted to represent internet gaming...

 

[Knight Dude]

I'm still hoping these are like... K. Rool's new hired goons or something since none of them really look like "final boss/main antagonist" material to me. They ain't Bowser, they're the Broodals.

I dunno, the little one is VERY Spike/Badboon-core. Dunno if you played Ape Escape or Monkey Ball. Like a scheming little ****. I guess I could say he's Monkey Wily or Monkey Cortex. But without facial hair, he's not quite that style all the way. But sorta.

K.Rool leans closer to Bowser and Dedede obviously. Big with rounder shape language.

Or maybe they think they’re taking in a wayward franchise that hasn’t had a consistent developer in arguably decades.

And don’t hit me with the “THEY COULD’VE GOTTEN SOMEBODY ELSE” again. They could’ve, but they didn’t. They wanted to do it themselves. I know you swear they need a Western developer but I don’t think your ability to make good DK games is innate to which side of the globe you were born on.

It should also be kept in mind, King Dedede also got a more retro inspired design in the past couple of Kirby games making him look more like Kirby 64 Dedede.

 

[Michael the Spikester]

I will say for Kremling hopers

this appears on the official site

Obviously, nothing is confirmed, but both of these structures are kinda crocodile shaped.

Press X for doubt...

 

[Wario Bros.]

While it's too early to say now but I wonder if Pokémon Champions will be Switch 2 enhanced.

 

[SnakeFighter64]

...NOW WHAT?

GET THE MIYAMOTO

Better keep me away from that man cause if I ever see him i'm gonna punch him in the face.

Jury's still out on that. They have yet to see a person darker than a Wheat-Thin. The instead WOKELY hide the skin colors.



It looks like ass so no one even acknowledges it. But I agree that it's dumb.


The only thing I'll agree on is that the Old design could've been fine, but I also don't hate the new one. Either works for me. Hell, Jungle Beat, as weird of a title as it is, was worked on by the Mario Galaxy team before Galaxy came out, so it's not as if internal Nintendo hasn't gone back to DK previously. Same with internal Nintendo doing Metroid Zero Mission and Fusion while Prime 1 and Prime 2 were done by Retro. So saying "The Japanese, can't possibly understand the ape like Europeans do" is a wild statement. 2 of those games were by American lead teams as it was anyway. And I'd argue that Jungle Beat had his coolest looking design, both compared to new DK and Rare DK. Again, probably the reason why I don't hate New DK is that he's more or less DK 94 in 3D.

I get new designs can be off putting. Overcomplicated MCU suits are like the post children for this. And I while I don't hate the games, I DO NOT LIKE the Zero series designs for most of the Mega Man characters in it. So again, I have some sympathy there.

I would also say that he isn't just doing Mario *. He's still rolling, there's still mine carts, still barrel cannons, still throwing barrels. All DK *. The new stuff isn't even cribbing Mario, it's cribbing off of Hulk. We haven't seen whether or not he does things like Capturing or not to just say it's DK Odyssey.

I don't think the new Monkey/Apes look like Mario characters. They feel closer to Kirby or Monkey Ball(you'd think THEY would crossover, btw). But obviously, that's a personal perspective thing. And again, Jungle Beat had, IMO some cool Kong designs, which I wish one or two of them stuck around. We'll have to see if we're lucky enough to have Diddy and Dixie in the game too. I hope so, they showed up in the movie, from what I heard.

I don't know what to tell you. It just... looks like Mario. Odyssey specifically. The textures, the landmarks, the new characters, the collectibles. Yeah the monkey miners don't look as Mario as some of the other stuff but I don't take much comfort in that. Like I can't believe I'm the only one who sees the Mario Paint all over this game's aesthetic because to me it's so obvious. And if you meant the bosses then... IDK they still look like Mario characters to me. But also like Pokemon at the same time which is weird. They just don't feel like they fit. A few characters with googly eyes and a holograph of the outline of a gnawty are not a DK game make.

And also having DK's cast of iconic side characters and villains be in the game is not something we should be "lucky to have". That's like saying "we're lucky to have Luigi, Peach, Bowser, and Yoshi back". No other video game series has to go through this so why does Donkey Kong?

 

[TheMightyP]

Better keep me away from that man cause if I ever see him i'm gonna punch him in the face.

...you should take a walk

 

[SnakeFighter64]

I dunno, the little one is VERY Spike/Badboon-core. Dunno if you played Ape Escape or Monkey Ball. Like a scheming little ****. I guess I could say he's Monkey Wily or Monkey Cortex. But without facial hair, he's not quite that style all the way. But sorta.

K.Rool leans closer to Bowser and Dedede obviously. Big with rounder shape language.



It should also be kept in mind, King Dedede also got a more retro inspired design in the past couple of Kirby games making him look more like Kirby 64 Dedede.

I guess the little one could be the main guy but I don't think so. If i'm being honest he seams more like... boss of World 1 to me. If this game will even have worlds because who knows, it might just be some open environment thing where you dig into new areas because nintendo needs to hang every game on a gimmick.

 

[CosmicEternity44]

Better keep me away from that man cause if I ever see him i'm gonna punch him in the face.

I don't know what to tell you. It just... looks like Mario. Odyssey specifically. The textures, the landmarks, the new characters, the collectibles. Yeah the monkey miners don't look as Mario as some of the other stuff but I don't take much comfort in that. Like I can't believe I'm the only one who sees the Mario Paint all over this game's aesthetic because to me it's so obvious. And if you meant the bosses then... IDK they still look like Mario characters to me. But also like Pokemon at the same time which is weird. They just don't feel like they fit. A few characters with googly eyes and a holograph of the outline of a gnawty are not a DK game make.

And also having DK's cast of iconic side characters and villains be in the game is not something we should be "lucky to have". That's like saying "we're lucky to have Luigi, Peach, Bowser, and Yoshi back". No other video game series has to go through this so why does Donkey Kong?

Oh Snake, you shouldn’t punch people at alll. That is not nice.

 

[SnakeFighter64]

...you should take a walk

I ****ing went and punched people in the face at a kickboxing class and that didn't help. I don't think a walk will help/

 

[Lamperouge]

Ooh ooh, can I post the Bananza Boxart next? Mom said it's my turn

I need a whole page in this thread of people talking about how awesome the new DK looks on the box art.

Image required, of course.

 

[Noipoi]

So when the Kirby Air Riders trailer started I had a really quick freak out.

If you remember the World of Light trailer Kirby is escaping on the warp star after everyone gets booty blasted by Galeem. When I saw the star falling, for a quick second I thought it Smash related. Smash Ultimate specifically.

I thought we were getting Ultimate DX with an expanded story mode. Gave me a heart attack.

Better keep me away from that man cause if I ever see him i'm gonna punch him in the face.

Don’t.

I don't know what to tell you. It just... looks like Mario. Odyssey specifically. The textures, the landmarks, the new characters, the collectibles. Yeah the monkey miners don't look as Mario as some of the other stuff but I don't take much comfort in that. Like I can't believe I'm the only one who sees the Mario Paint all over this game's aesthetic because to me it's so obvious.

I do! I see it!

But I like it so

 

[SnakeFighter64]

I do! I see it!

But I like it so

But why do you like it!?! Why do you want Donkey Kong to be more like Mario? I've been wanting the opposite for years. For Mario to become more like Donkey Kong because his world and games are so much cooler. Why do you want him to become homogenized into Mario's world?

So when the Kirby Air Riders trailer started I had a really quick freak out.

If you remember the World of Light trailer Kirby is escaping on the warp star after everyone gets booty blasted by Galeem. When I saw the star falling, for a quick second I thought it Smash related. Smash Ultimate specifically.

I thought we were getting Ultimate DX with an expanded story mode. Gave me a heart attack.

When I saw it I thought it was just a new Kirby platformer.

 

[Michael the Spikester]

We need Mario & Luigi games where the duo are paired up with Peach and Daisy, DK and Diddy and Wario and Waluigi.

Similar to Baby Mario and Baby Luigi in Partners in Time.

 

[Noipoi]

But why do you like it!?! Why do you want Donkey Kong to be more like Mario? I've been wanting the opposite for years. For Mario to become more like Donkey Kong because his world and games are so much cooler. Why do you want him to become homogenized into Mario's world?

Now hold on. I don’t see any homogenization here. I don’t see DK hitting blocks and eating mushrooms. Okay admittedly the overalls are a bit jarring, but the game is themed around mining so I can let it slide.

What I do see is that this game was clearly built in the Odyssey engine. And I love that engine. I adore that engine with all my heart. So I know this is gonna be a fun game.

 

[TheMightyP]

So when the Kirby Air Riders trailer started I had a really quick freak out.

If you remember the World of Light trailer Kirby is escaping on the warp star after everyone gets booty blasted by Galeem. When I saw the star falling, for a quick second I thought it Smash related. Smash Ultimate specifically.

I thought we were getting Ultimate DX with an expanded story mode. Gave me a heart attack.

Don’t.

I do! I see it!

But I like

When the first slash was vertical, I didn't think much of it.

Then the Warp Star, so yeah, Kirby for sure. But... oddly detailed?

And then the second, now horizontal slash happened.

And I was like, yeah it's Smash. It wasn't

 

[SnakeFighter64]

Now hold on. I don’t see any homogenization here. I don’t see DK hitting blocks and eating mushrooms. Okay admittedly the overalls are a bit jarring, but the game is themed around mining so I can let it slide.

What I do see is that this game was clearly built in the Odyssey engine. And I love that engine. I adore that engine with all my heart. So I know this is gonna be a fun game.

it's the arty style and general gameplay structure that feel homogenized. They could give Mario a digging mechanic if they wanted to and then it would just be this. They could build a whole game around it like they did the FLUDD. It doesn't get points because "gorillas stronk so stronk monkey punch dirt to make hole". Like that is such a basic idea. It takes more than riding in mine carts and throwing barrels and grabbing bananas to really be a Donkey Kong game.

 

[Hex D. Jess]

I ****ing went and punched people in the face at a kickboxing class and that didn't help. I don't think a walk will help/

...have you tried therapy?

 

[SnakeFighter64]

...have you tried therapy?

Yes and every time I tell them I have emotional breakdowns over video games they look at me like I'm a martian and say "have you tried not." Therapists don't know how to deal with me.

 

[Noipoi]

it's the arty style and general gameplay structure that feel homogenized. They could give Mario a digging mechanic if they wanted to and then it would just be this. They could build a whole game around it like they did the FLUDD. It doesn't get points because "gorillas stronk so stronk monkey punch dirt to make hole". Like that is such a basic idea. It takes more than riding in mine carts and throwing barrels and grabbing bananas to really be a Donkey Kong game.

You seem to have a very high personal standard for what constitutes a Donkey Kong game. Like if it doesn’t fit your very specific parameters it isn’t valid.

But I dunno man, it looks like a Donkey Kong game to me. Just a different one.

 

[CosmicEternity44]

Yes and every time I tell them I have emotional breakdowns over video games they look at me like I'm a martian and say "have you tried not." Therapists don't know how to deal with me.

No offense, Snake, but it seems you don’t seem to know how to deal with yourself. Therapists can’t help you if you can’t act to help yourself. Video games aren’t worth having emotional breakdowns over.

 

[SnakeFighter64]

You seem to have a very high personal standard for what constitutes a Donkey Kong game. Like if it doesn’t fit your very specific parameters it isn’t valid.

But I dunno man, it looks like a Donkey Kong game to me. Just a different one.

Honestly I think your standards are too low and you should be more upset that they're basically giving you something else and trying to tell you it's donkey kong. They shouldn't be doing that. This is Paper Mario Sticker Star all over again.

No offense, Snake, but it seems you don’t seem to know how to deal with yourself. Therapists can’t help you if you can’t act to help yourself. Video games aren’t worth having emotional breakdowns over.

Nothing objectively matters. The only things that matter are what you've decided matter to you. So you can't dog on someone for being passionate about something you aren't. Because mattering and worth are entirely subjective and self defined.

 

[SnakeFighter64]

please delete

 

[Noipoi]

Honestly I think your standards are too low and you should be more upset that they're basically giving you something else and trying to tell you it's donkey kong. They shouldn't be doing that. This is Paper Mario Sticker Star all over again.

Well the thing with Sticker Star is that it was bad.

If Sticker Star was radically different but really good, people would’ve more readily accepted it. They still would’ve missed some aspects of the older games, but if it was a good game it would’ve been well received.

Super Paper Mario, while divisive, is pretty liked by the fanbase because even though it’s different it does do some things very well. Namely the story and characters. And people were actually pretty cool with Origami King, at least once it came out, because once again it’s a solid game.

 

[CosmicEternity44]

please delete

There is this thing called self harm. I was also not dogging on you. There are just more things in life worth investing in than video games. Having breakdowns over video games? That is not something good to do. You can’t let this little thing ruin things for you.

 

[Shroob]

Well the thing with Sticker Star is that it was bad.

If Sticker Star was radically different but really good, people would’ve more readily accepted it. They still would’ve missed some aspects of the older games, but if it was a good game it would’ve been well received.

Super Paper Mario, while divisive, is pretty liked by the fanbase because even though it’s different it does do some things very well. Namely the story and characters. And people were actually pretty cool with Origami King, at least once it came out, because once again it’s a solid game.

Yeah, look at Origami King.


It's got its flaws, like a completely worthless battle system, but honestly? Yeah Origami King ain't even that bad. It's legions better than Sticker Star/Color Splash.


Is it a good follow up to classic Paper Mario? No, not at all. But on its own? Yeah, it's a completely 'fine' game.

 

[SnakeFighter64]

There is this thing called self harm. I was also not dogging on you. There are just more things in life worth investing in than video games. Having breakdowns over video games? That is not something good to do. You can’t let this little thing ruin things for you.

Life was ruined for me in 2016 and I've been trying to find something to make it worth living again ever since.

At least I have my GF, but she's still in college in another state. I do love her a lot though. I just wanna be with her.

God what am I doing.

 

[Noipoi]

Social Thread schedule:

9:00 AM: Watch direct
10:00 AM: Be flabbergasted by prices
12:00 PM: Start to come around as we realize we’re all buying it anyway
2:00 PM: Lunch break
3:00 PM to present: Guiding Snake through the stages of Donkey Kong grief

 

[Shroob]

.....So like, is this the same kinda feeling that Sonic fans had when they saw the Boom designs or...?

 

[SnakeFighter64]

Social Thread schedule:

9:00 AM: Watch direct
10:00 AM: Be flabbergasted by prices
12:00 PM: Start to come around as we realize we’re all buying it anyway
2:00 PM: Lunch break
3:00 PM to Present: Helping Snake through the stages of Donkey Kong gried

doesn't help that I'm going out of order. I feel like Rage is supposed to come before sadness.

And also that I've been saying this stuff for like... two years now ever since I started watching DK Vine and found out he'd been taken internally. I was stating my reservations about what the Odyssey team would do with Donkey Kong for that long and now it's even worse than I predicted because I just thought the worst they'd do is give him some weird anime-esque facial expressions like you see in the Smash trailers. I never thought they'd try to resurrect the arcade design.

 

[TheMightyP]

Social Thread schedule:

9:00 AM: Watch direct
10:00 AM: Be flabbergasted by prices
12:00 PM: Start to come around as we realize we’re all buying it anyway
2:00 PM: Lunch break
3:00 PM to present: Guiding Snake through the stages of Donkey Kong grief

Speak for yourself I'm still flabbergasted at Mario Kart Worlds being 80

 

[SnakeFighter64]

.....So like, is this the same kinda feeling that Sonic fans had when they saw the Boom designs or...?

Nah that was probably worse.

 

[Z25]

Also are we gonna talk about the fact that Sakurai is back for another Kirby game???? That's monumental

Sakurai doesn’t even work for Nintendo or Hal.

He probably just showed up at Hal one day, said give me my child and they went “yes Mr Sakurai”