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He already got that? Look at all those reverse grip sword swings, and how his forward and Final Smash are references to his FE6 animations.
I mean, Engage also has Lyn and Lyn is pretty popular. Engage could be used as an excuse to do Lyn instead.
I remember my favorite part about that was the art that I believe SchAlternate made when it was the hot topic? The one where Doomguy, Ryu Hayabusa, and Artorias are in the background and Banjo's looking at them all bug-eyed like "what the **** did i just get myself into" because he stuck out so much from the rest of them lol
He got that nearly a decade ago in Smash 4, buddy.
I feel like any plan for Fire Emblem's situation in Smash Bros that involves "make Roy/Lucina/Chrom/whoever into alts for Marth" is a bad plan
Dr. Mario alone is proof that anyone wanting any clone to be turned into a costume is in for a world of disappointment.
I think that could have worked if that had been the case from the start but I agree it would annoy people if they did it now. Same with Fox, Falco and Wolf. They could have feasibly been alts from the beginning but people have gotten used to how they play now and demoting them at this point would upset a lot of people.
And according to Sakurai he felt that reducing Dr. Mario to just an alternate costume would essentially be an insult to everyone who mained him in Melee. That's his stated reason for moving Dr. Mario from an alternate costume to his own separate roster slot.
I know about that quote, but I feel like Doc having gameplay differences, or at least trying to, is why he felt that way
Didn't Sakurai say that was originally the plan for Lucina, but they have slightly different builds or abilities or something so he didn't go for it and made her a clone instead? lol
By that logic, hasn't Ganondorf become an Ike clone? Because 2/3 of his smash attacks are now ripped directly from Ike's animations.
You're right. That is silly.
Yeah Sakurai changes rules when he wants to. I've never been his biggest fan tbh. But hey, it's his game, he can do what he wants and he def will do what he wants. I'll never agree with how inconsistent his decisions are though. How Dr. Mario isn't an echo, but Chrom is boggles my mind. It's like..wait..what? At the end of the day anyone can say whatever they want about that type of thing, but I don't like it and never will.
I think, in that event, they’d just resize them to fit Marth’s frame. I doubt it would be all that noticeable. It’s not like the sizes are accurate right now anyways.
That's a really good point but the Special Moves wouldn't match then like Marth, Roy, and Lucinas. I know Chrom has Ikes UP-B but like I said Sakurai makes up rules as he goes. I'll do the same, just in the opposite direction haha.
I mean if they ever add another Mother character, Porky is definitely the best bet since he's relevant in 2/3 games and is the most recurring character, it's just that Mother getting another character is a big if since it's not getting any additional games since the story it was telling ended.
Not really. The main thing that REALLY pushed a campaign for him is being the only Subspace boss to not get any direct acknowledgement.
I mean that too when the game came out and we noticed he wasn't there (which is especially odd imo since the Absolutely Safe Capsule uses a Mr. Saturn as a summon ingredient), but we wouldn't have known that during the hype cycle pre-release lol
A lack of confidence, I imagine. With the roster likely condensing next game most Mother fans like myself are bracing ourselves to lose Lucas already. There isn't a whole lot of motivation for them to add anything more without that kind of K. Rool esque fan demand to sustain it, which Porky doesn't have.
nope. I remember people getting carried away with little to no evidence that put him ahead of everyone else but I don't think that's the same thing
Also just Marth like in most fan games which is impossible.
Probably the fact that Ulimate included Villains that weren’t previously included such as Ridley, King K Rool, and Sephiroth. Porky has appeared in two EarthBound games and easier to add compared to Giygas. Not as much traction as you would think.
Pretty much, yeah.
I wouldn’t count on it either. I don’t think Sakurai said anything, and even then, he said the same thing during the development of past Smash games and that did not happen. I don’t think he’ll retire just yet.
Even if you only look at the three Smash attacks, down smash is the only one of the three shared by all of them...and that's mostly because it's the Standard Sword Down Smash lol.
Never agreed with that either. The Smash attacks should be more of the win condition. Smash being more based on the neutral game than actual Smash attacks has always thrown me off. It can steel feel just as good if they weaken the neutral game. It'd slow down faster spamming characters, that's for sure.
That's where it loses me. If it visually looks so identical that at a glance you can't tell them apart then I say they're the same. Makes it easier for me. I don't care if one does 2 hits and the other 50, the closely tied animation just comes off as lazy.
It should also be pointed out that both of their up smashes are also one of the two Standard Sword Up Smashes, the other being ironically the one you praised Ganondorf for being so "unique".
....They usually are the win condition, unless another move has better KOing potential or is less risky while still being rewarding enough and those are rarely jabs or tilts.
No evidence. This might be the last gen with him and a lot of other industry dudes that made the games you love though.
I think Sakurai is stubborn enough and relatively young enough that he could make two Smash games before calling it quits.
Especially since he's 54 and Miyamoto is currently 72 and still not fully retired lol
But he’s already made 5
I'm telling you I play the game at a casual level and spamming a characters neutral just to win even if it's the best neutral in the game just isn't what I do. I like for my opponents to enjoy themselves as well. Plus I only play with people that don't have much time to game anyway, so we ban any/all top tiers or characters we deem too strong, which unfortunately is a good amount of them. Heavy characters are always included though as they tend to be much easier to counter especially when you are just playing and not sweating.
All the other stuff aside...
Are you referring to a characters set of neutral moves or the state of 'neutral', a Smash term meant to explain how players respond before gaining or losing the upper hand?
Nah I just think too much of the game play is oriented toward not SMASH attacks lol even since Smashes inception, not just the recent games. I've never figured out in my mind how exactly I'd change it, but I never shy away from letting it be known. Like if I could somehow reverse the usage of neutrals and Smash attacks with some sort of game play mechanic that would make it slower to make what we know as Smash attacks be useful as often as neutrals are now that'd be the goal.
That's just a different game at that point. Air mobility, the percent/launch system, etc. are integral to what makes Smash, Smash.
...You do realize 64 is played with five stocks competitively because the game has so much hitstun that nearly every character on the roster can touch of death combo their opponent, right? Which makes it REALLY FAST? I know you're likely talking casually, but still lol
That's not even a Smash term. It's a term regarding gameplay as a whole. Fighting games like Smash use it the most though.
